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互助客栈用於进行和維基語錄有关的討論,当你感到困惑、无助、恐惧、愤怒,或是能给予他人帮助时,都可以在这里发言。请将新的话题添加于页面的最底端,并使用四个浪纹(~~~~,也可以点击编辑工具栏上的签名图标)给你的帖子签名!

  • 歡迎所有新來者及老居民!如果您對於維基语录有任何疑問,此地將會有人爲您解答。
  • 在提出問題前,請先看看問題是否已經在常見問題解答幫助中被解答。
  • 為了大家方便閱讀,請在問題或答案之後簽名:打四個波浪號(~~~~)。保存頁面之後,電腦會自動顯示出名字和時間。
  • 問題及其解答並不會永遠留在這頁(否則這頁將變得太長而不能被編輯。)若過了一段時間再沒有活動,資料會被移到有關的部份(如常見問題)、存於檔案或是被刪除。
  • 所以請爲您的討論附上日期及題目以便我們進行這一工作。

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寫個新的論題
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已移动到其他地方的讨论在存檔中。

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如果需要尋求管理員幫助,例如申請頁面保護、申請IP封鎖例外權、投訴用戶、作出編輯請求等,也可以在這裡提出請求。

请求为首页每日名言提供feed支持编辑

参考mw:Extension:FeaturedFeedsmw:Extension:FeaturedFeeds/WMF_deployment,需要设置MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-page,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-title,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-short-title,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-desc,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-entry即可--Shizhao讨论) 2020年7月29日 (三) 02:49 (UTC)[]

关于"维基语录:收录范围"编辑

@Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme:可否将维基语录:收录范围借鉴英文页面扩充一下。今天看了英文规范,感觉自己刚来对维基语录认识有偏差,建了部分可建可不建的低质量页面。--Xixshnsh讨论) 2020年9月17日 (四) 20:03 (UTC)[]

我认为应该收录言论有一定影响力的网络人物,即使这些人物不符合維基百科关注度标准(例如程浩,只因一起事件知名)。--GZWDer讨论) 2020年9月18日 (五) 23:55 (UTC)[]
@GZWDer:这一点认同。主要是希望维基语录:收录范围增加以下内容:添加的语录要有来源或出处,现在没有来源的语录太多了;英维中关于诽谤内容是否收录的规范;英维中对言论价值的评价标准也很详细,可以借鉴一部分;包括你说的这种情况等各种细节问题也可以说明一下。
對於w:WP:1E適當放寬來多收錄有價值內容的這個主意不錯,我回頭看看英維方面的表述。🤔--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme讨论) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:19 (UTC)[]
然后维基语录:收录范围依然像现在一样,仅供参考,只是写得更详细了。--Xixshnsh讨论) 2020年9月26日 (六) 08:45 (UTC)[]
  • 抱歉上個月一直很忙所以忽略了許多事情,對於擴充我會嘗試抽時間去做的。(目前積壓的優先級較高的事情還有維基新聞的Logo、維基百科的幾篇條目還有為Commons製作花札樣圖,所以可能需要一陣子來處理,如果其他人有能力的話也歡迎在我之前提前去做。)--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme讨论) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:19 (UTC)[]

12月14日每日名言似乎署名错误编辑

12月14日每日名言“对骄傲的人不要谦逊,对谦逊的人不要骄傲。”署名托玛斯·杰弗逊,但网上大多署名杰斐逊·戴维斯,杰斐逊·戴维斯相似的英文名言为“Never be haughty to the humble or humble to the haughty.”--Xixshnsh讨论) 2020年9月26日 (六) 08:19 (UTC)[]

  • 有具體可靠的來源主張是戴維斯的名言嗎,有的話以後者為準將前面一個不確定的先撤掉也行,避免傳播擴散錯誤資訊。--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme讨论) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:23 (UTC)[]

有關胡志颖的語錄编辑

胡志颖的語錄是在去年4月創建的, 其中有28段胡志颖在各著作中的內容。

我曾在去年9月提報刪除, 後來因為多人反對, 我已取消刪除。

其中不少較長篇幅引用的內容, 例其中引用自《藝術無常論》的語錄, 長度為454個字。 我目前的想法是:胡志颖的語錄也許不用刪除,但內容可能需要再加以精簡。想請大家看一下,並提供意見。謝謝--Wolfch讨论) 2021年3月15日 (一) 05:07 (UTC)[]

  • 放弃删除是一大遗憾。Ohtashinichiro讨论) 2021年3月16日 (二) 11:24 (UTC)[]
    • 维基语录现状:
      • 维基语录没有明确收录标准,习惯上是百科收录的主题,语录也可以收录;百科不收录的主题,语录也不收录。
      • 维基语录没有限制收录篇幅,只要不超出合理使用的限度即可。
      • 维基语录作为语录,不禁止也不应当禁止第一手来源。引用作者本人出版的内容是没有问题的。
      • 维基语录没有社群,不太可能就一项方针指引达成共识。
    • 所以即使看着这条语录感到很不爽,知道编写者就是来打广告的,但并没有能删除的理由。不过看百科全书条目,51条参考文献中似乎没有能够证明关注度的参考来源(进一步讲,这51个参考文献中,要么是本人出版的内容,要么是其他人对本人的浅显的提及,均不符合第三方、可靠来源、深入介绍的要求,严格卡关注度的话,百科全书中“胡志颖”条目根本就不应该存在),是不是可以先给百科条目提删,等百科条目删掉之后再来删语录?--高文海讨论) 2021年3月16日 (二) 12:41 (UTC)[]
      • 謝謝意見,只是我目前不太想處理「胡志穎」維基條目的提刪,我覺得該條目寫作方式有不少調整空間,但關注度應該ok。--Wolfch讨论) 2021年3月16日 (二) 15:33 (UTC)[]

我目前的想法是用Google來確認,若語錄中的內容可以用Google到其他網頁(不是原始來源的網頁版)有這部份的內容, 那就保留, 不然就刪除。在搜尋過程有發現胡志颖 Wise Words, 有些語句在此網站中可以找到, 但在其他網站中找不到的, 我也考慮刪除。

依上述的標準來看, 「我堅信人類具有無法分辨真實與虛幻、藝術與非藝術界限的天賦秉性,藝術家也不例外,過去、現在、未來都是如此。」有出現在訪談:胡志穎裝置《安徒生童話》在紐約現代藝術博物館,這個語錄會保留,其他的語錄應該都會刪除。--Wolfch讨论) 2021年3月18日 (四) 00:55 (UTC)[]

已進行修改--Wolfch讨论) 2021年3月25日 (四) 04:37 (UTC)[]

Module:Documentation编辑

错误导入wp的Template:documentation后,若欲回退至旧版本,则您不能编辑此修订版本,因为它的内容模型是Scribunto,这与当前页面wikitext的内容模型不同。--Sayonzei讨论) 2021年4月19日 (一) 07:02 (UTC)[]

@Sayonzei:不留重定向移动试试,删除权限只有这种绕法。 EdwardAlexanderCrowley讨论) 2021年4月19日 (一) 14:39 (UTC)[]
已将原页面移至User:Qnm/Documentation,并手动写入新wiki版本。管理员可以删除或合并User:Qnm/DocumentationEdwardAlexanderCrowley讨论) 2021年4月20日 (二) 07:02 (UTC)[]

Suggested Values编辑

Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 2021年4月22日 (四) 19:36 (UTC)[]

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1编辑

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年6月11日 (五) 23:05 (UTC)[]

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions编辑

Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年6月16日 (三) 04:18 (UTC)[]

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2编辑

2021年6月24日 (四) 14:14 (UTC)

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) 2021年6月27日 (日) 01:19 (UTC)[]

Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review编辑

Please translate this message into Chinese, and start the discussion in the local, Thank you!

The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned to begin 17 August 2021.

Community and staff members collaborated to develop these draft guidelines based on consultations, discussions, and research. These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. Provide comments about these guidelines by 17 October 2021. The committee will be revising the guidelines based upon community input.

Everyone may share comments in a number of places. Facilitators welcome comments in any language on the draft review talk page or by email. Comments can also be shared on talk pages of translations, at local discussions, or during round-table discussions and conversation hours.

There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:

Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC

The facilitation team supporting this review period hopes to reach a large number of communities. Having a shared understanding is important. If you do not see a conversation happening in your community, please organize a discussion. Facilitators can assist you in setting up the conversations.

Discussions will be summarized and presented to the drafting committee every two weeks. The summaries will be published here.

Please let me know if you have any questions. --MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年8月18日 (三) 04:01 (UTC)[]

Wikimedia Foundation Election 2021 is now stated编辑

Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election is now open. Candidates from the community were asked to submit their candidacy. After a three week long Call for Candidates, there are 19 candidates for the 2021 election.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's operations. The Board wants to improve their competences and diversity as a team. They have shared the areas of expertise that they are hoping to cover with new trustees.

The Wikimedia movement has the opportunity to select candidates who have the qualities to best serve the needs of the movement for the next several years. The Board is expected to select the four most voted candidates to serve as trustees. This term starts in September and lasts for three years. Learn more about the Board of Trustees in this short video.

Vote now until August 31.

Below is some useful information about the election process.

Learn more about the candidates

Candidates from across the movement have submitted their candidatures. Learn about each candidate to inform your vote. The community submitted questions for the candidates to answer during the campaign. Candidates answered the list of community questions collated by the Elections Committee on Meta.

Vote

Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election opened on 18 August 2021 and closes on 31 August 2021. The Elections Committee chose Single Transferable Vote for the voting system. The benefit of this is voters can rank their choices in order of preference. Learn more about voting requirements, how to vote, and frequently asked questions about voting.

Please help in the selection of those people who best fit the needs of the movement at this time. Vote and spread the word so more people can vote for candidates. Those selected will help guide the Wikimedia Foundation and support the needs of the movement over the next few years.

Best,

The Elections Committee -- User:YKo (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年8月18日 (三) 04:21 (UTC)[]

為互助客棧引入topic list编辑

如題,這樣可以更好的追蹤討論,不知大家意見如何。—— Eric Liu留言百科用戶頁 2021年8月25日 (三) 14:07 (UTC)[]

  • 前提是要有討論,不然僅多一個機器人在編輯。米莉婭諾朵卡留言) 2021年8月26日 (四) 09:02 (UTC)[]
    • 我看人多的時候還是能有討論的,例如說客棧前幾個話題。—— Eric Liu留言百科用戶頁 2021年9月3日 (五) 10:43 (UTC)[]

Thank you for participating 2021 Board election编辑

Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.

6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.

Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better. MediaWiki message delivery讨论) via MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年9月2日 (四) 04:52 (UTC)[]

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January编辑

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 2021年9月7日 (二) 00:23 (UTC)[]

維基媒體基金會理事會理事選舉結果發表编辑

感謝各位參與2021年度理事會選舉,此次選舉旨在選出四名新的理事,選舉委員會完整檢視這次的投票屆果,有效票數來自214個專案總計6,873人參與投票,下列四名便是獲得最多得票數的候選人:

  1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
  2. Victoria Doronina
  3. Dariusz Jemielniak
  4. Lorenzo Losa

目前是以社群投票結果列出四名候選人,然而,他們仍未正式成為理事會的一員,候選人仍須經背景審查並達到 Bylaws 列出的標準。理事會暫定會在本月底正式任用新的成員。

請在此閱讀完整公告

--MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年9月8日 (三) 12:09 (UTC)[]

Participate in the Universal Code of Conduct Roundtable编辑

The Movement Strategy and Governance facilitation team is hosting Roundtable discussions on 18 September 2021 at 03:00 UTC and 15:00 UTC for Wikimedians to talk together about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct . These calls are part of the Universal Code of Conduct project Phase 2 Enforcement draft guidelines review (EDGR).

Each session will last for 90 to 120 minutes and translation support for various languages will be provided. Also, sessions in specific languages may also be held depending on demand. Community members are encouraged to sign up in advance and add the topic to discuss during roundtable session.

If you are not able to make the roundtable session, you can provide the comments are at the draft review talk page in any language, talk pages of translations, and local discussions.

For more information, please visit roundtable discussion information page at Meta-wiki. --MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年9月10日 (五) 04:29 (UTC)[]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021编辑

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 wikimedia.org with questions.

Xeno (WMF) 2021年9月10日 (五) 17:06 (UTC)[]

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) (讨论) 2021年9月11日 (六) 00:46 (UTC)[]

Talk to the Community Tech编辑

 

Read this message in another language请帮助翻译至您的语言

Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (讨论) 2021年9月11日 (六) 03:04 (UTC)[]

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24编辑

Dear fellow Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Movement Charter process. We have closed the call for candidates on September 14 for the Drafting Committee and now have a pool of candidates with diverse backgrounds to choose from.

The 15 member committee will be selected with a 3-step process:

  • Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
  • Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
  • Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.
Communities elect 7 members
This announcement is related to the community elections, which will take place in a time period of 2 weeks from October 11 to October 24. We look forward to a wide participation across the communities to create the committee to curate the writing of the Movement Charter. The Election Results will be published on November 1.
Affiliates select 6 members
Parallel to the election process, all affiliates asked to contribute as well: All affiliates were divided into eight geographic and one ‘thematic’ region (check the list), and each region chooses one person who will act as a selector for that region. These 9 selectors will come together to select 6 of the committee (from the same pool of candidates). The selection results will be published on November 1.
Wikimedia Foundation appoints 2 members
Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation will appoint two members to the committee by November 1.

All three processes will be concluded by November 1, 2021, so that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee can start working by then.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030@wikimedia.org).

Best regards,--MediaWiki message delivery讨论) 2021年9月22日 (三) 02:31 (UTC)[]